Wednesday, November 02, 2005

The Adventures of the Extreme Freedom Team #4

Site: www.extremefreedomteam.com

Video: HAWAII, KIDS-STYLE

Video Summary:

This is a high paced video with fast moving clips of Hawaii. Early on, a group of people exclaims, “Come join us”, and then a group of children screams something, but the words are incoherent. This video is mostly capitalizing on kids having fun in a water park with some dirt bike scenes as well. Near the middle is a boat cruise with whales surfacing the ocean. There is a scene with the kids where they all say together, “Diamond Club is being at the pool every day”, as they hold up their arms with 6 pool pass bracelets on each kid. The video ends with the oldest Leninger kid saying into the camera, “Diamond Club. What a week [sign]”, as she turns her head in the sun.

My Thoughts:

This video exploited children to spark a dream of spending life with kids at glorious hotels and traveling around the world. There is nothing wrong with taking a great vacation and having fun, but the whole of the BWW system promotes this as the lifestyle to live absolutely, which denies the lesson of hard, faithful, consistent work.

11 Comments:

Blogger blusdrmr said...

"My Thoughts: This video exploited children to spark a dream of spending life with kids at glorious hotels and traveling around the world."

First of all, your "thoughts" should be buried in a large hole. They are worthless drivel that only glorifies your own need for attention. Isn't that the REAL reason you started this blog? You are a self-centered so-called Christian who thinks that he has every answer to everything.

Exploited children? That's funny! No, these people actually have the time (that they EARNED) to spend with thier children. Isn't that the reason to HAVE children, to spend time with them? Or do you "exploit" yours by farming them out to a daycare center so you can make that "almighty dollar" you claim is so bad to chase? If it's so bad, then you need to quit your job and go into a mission field. You are such a hypocrite! Do you claim your children on your tax return so you can get that wonderful tax credit for them? Hypocrite!

Exploiting children sounds more like what you do, not what they do to spend time with them and show people that it CAN be done.

"which denies the lesson of hard, faithful, consistent work."

yeah, right. That is why I teach my children that you have to work for what you get. My oldest son has bought the last three bikes he has had with his own money that he has earned. He bought his go-kart with money he has earned. WOW!! Sounds like denial to me! PFFT!

Thu Nov 17, 11:55:00 AM GMT-5  
Blogger xanadustc said...

Calm down and take some medication! I find it funny how you are so defensive. Although it may be wrong, I am quick to conclude that you have to resort on personal attacks on me because you can not refute my position. If I am so wrong in my Christian analysis, use the scripture to refute me.

Next, on to false assumptions 101, I do not farm out kids to a daycare, nor am I an advocate of that! The common 'day-care-child' lifestyle is a bunch of hype produced by the likes of your cult systems. Believe it or not, there is a legitamate resean to send kids to day care, my example, I spent time in day are as a child, I don't think my mom is evil for that, she was trying to raise two kids ona single income. She did what she had to do.

Most of the people that will send their kids to a daycare do not have their finances in order, still others are doing it temporarily to set themselves up. Who are YOU to judge their particular positions.

As for claiming children on tax returns, that is not exploting them, but exploting them is to get them to look real cute for you on camera to motivate people that are losing money on a dangerous cult-like system to keep people in one more day, to buy one more tape, to go to one more function...

Now, as for you, with two traditional businesses and a cult, how do you find time to spend with kids? Here is what I do with them:
Play games over a kitchen table every chance I get, coach a boys club, camp counsel at least twice a year, co-ordinate VBS, pick up a local kid to spend time with for a few hours a week. All this and I don't have any kids. What can you tell me?

BTW, what lesson are you teaching them to exploit people to get 'free' so you can sit around and do nothing. Nice lesson.

Thu Nov 17, 12:24:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger Joecool18 said...

Worthless drivel more likely comes from BWW bill britt who had an affair and lost milllions being involved in a ponzi scheme, yet people in his illustrious downline are supposed to submit to him and take counsel from him?

Now that's drinking purple kool aid.

Thu Nov 17, 01:33:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger blusdrmr said...

.snip.BWW bill britt who had an affair.snip.

Prove it. Without any proof, your claims don't hold water.

.snip.and lost milllions being involved in a ponzi scheme.snip.

And some other people have lost money playing the stock market on worthless stocks. What's your point?

.snip.yet people in his illustrious downline are supposed to submit to him and take counsel from him?.snip.

First of all, I take counsel from my immediate upline. I, for one, understand that Bill has not "built" the business in years and has all but retired because of his age and health problems. My immediate upline has my total suppport simply because he has done nothing wrong to me, my family or anyone that I have ever met. I will take advice from him in every area that best suits me and my family. I have NEVER seen him walk over anyone nor belittle anyone to get to where he is (Diamond). He is still active in building other people's businesses and will stay active as long as he can because of his heart for people, not for the money. He has never told me anything that has hurt me, my family, my finances, etc. Why should I NOT trust him?

You have chosen the job kool-aid, my friend and are destined to work a dead-end job the rest of your life with no hope of a retirement and I think that is sad.

Now that's drinking purple kool aid.

Thu Nov 17, 02:12:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger xanadustc said...

http://www.amquix.info/britt_separation.html

There is some well documented legal cases of Bill being in less-then-integrid situations. Take them for what they are.

Next, You appear to be thinking of the old "98% of people at 65 are dead or broke", sir, if that is your resource, check again, that is a 1936 statistic. The ONLY reason that I have any debt at all is because I was in Quixtar (BWW more accuratly.) I know of hundreds of people who have successfully built up a fortune working, while I know of hundreds who have LOST their fortune in BWW. Take that for what it is worth.

Stock Market = Legal
Ponzi Scheme = Illegal

That is why there is cause for concern. I do not know if he started it, or bought into it as an unaware victim. I will refrane from an opinion.

Who is your upline diamond?

Prove to me you are making money. Without any proof, your claims do not hold water.

Sir, I do drink purple Kool-Aid. I happen to like grape; but you, sir, are drinking from a cup that is far more deadly. From my heart, have you ever read any material on Dangerous cults? Steve Hassan has a great resource on the subject here:

http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/
articles/BITE.htm

If you think that your group is not a cult, it will stand up true by comparing your system to Steve's analysis. Good Luck,
I will be praying for you,
Peace in Christ,
X

Thu Nov 17, 02:27:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger blusdrmr said...

X:Calm down and take some medication! I find it funny how you are so defensive. Although it may be wrong, I am quick to conclude that you have to resort on personal attacks on me because you can not refute my position.

I can refute any position from experience. You cannot due to the fact that you failed. You failed because you chose to not listen to the people who could help you become successful. Instead you chose the path of stupidity by blowing your credit cards all out of whack and not using proper judgement. That was your own stupidity, not your upline, not BWW....YOU.

X:If I am so wrong in my Christian analysis, use the scripture to refute me.

Why not back up our claims? What you have put forth so far holds no water.

X: Next, on to false assumptions 101, I do not farm out kids to a daycare, nor am I an advocate of that! The common 'day-care-child' lifestyle is a bunch of hype produced by the likes of your cult systems. Believe it or not, there is a legitamate resean to send kids to day care, my example, I spent time in day are as a child, I don't think my mom is evil for that, she was trying to raise two kids ona single income. She did what she had to do.

My Mom was s single Mom as well. I did not go to "daycare". I had a babysitter in the home with us instead. (BTW..it's spelled "reason" not "resean") And what is that legitimate reason? Yes, people do what they have to do. HARK!!! There's a revelation for ya! And, as for your "assumption" of me thinking day care is evil "because of the cult I am part of"....WRONG. My thought process was of that wayyy before I ever became an IBO.

X: Most of the people that will send their kids to a daycare do not have their finances in order, still others are doing it temporarily to set themselves up. Who are YOU to judge their particular positions.

Um...no. Most people send thier kids to daycare is because they choose to live above their means and both spouses work so that one can pay the mortgage and the daycare bill. My wife is a stay at home Mom with our three boys and THAT is the best daycare possible. She is able to do that because of our business profits from Quixtar. There is no price you can put on that.

X: As for claiming children on tax returns, that is not exploting them, but exploting them is to get them to look real cute for you on camera to motivate people that are losing money on a dangerous cult-like system to keep people in one more day, to buy one more tape, to go to one more function...

You are so full of crap. So, you say that taking a picture or video of my children is going to exploit them? That's funny! I will have to let them know that next time so I will not take any more photos or videos of them. I am sure my family would really enjoy not seeing their grandkids anymore.


Now, as for you, with two traditional businesses and a cult, how do you find time to spend with kids? Here is what I do with them:
Play games over a kitchen table every chance I get, coach a boys club, camp counsel at least twice a year, co-ordinate VBS, pick up a local kid to spend time with for a few hours a week. All this and I don't have any kids. What can you tell me?

Hmmm...let's see. I play video games with my oldest, go to his baseball games, go to pro hockey games with him, go to his hockey games, go the arcade with him, help him with his go kart if it needs work, take him to see legendary blues artists like BB King and Buddy Guy, etc, etc. Second and third boys: wrestle with them. (they are my alarm clock in the morning), Play games with them, etc, etc. Wife: Dates once a month on a regular basis, talk, go for walks, etc, etc. We attend a local church that I am the drummer for the P&W team, we help out with the teens Coffee Shop at the church. I also play in a local band and do all of the booking, planning, promotions, etc.

All of this AND build my business on a regular basis.

Now....get over you hypocritical attitude.

BTW, what lesson are you teaching them to exploit people to get 'free' so you can sit around and do nothing. Nice lesson.

Now, there you go assuming again (and you are doing a great job of proving the old saying about assuming). That is YOUR take on things and you happen to have no credibility. You QUIT. If people choose to follow you, then they are following a quitter. Not the best example to have.

You are still a hypocrite.

Thu Nov 17, 02:32:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger blusdrmr said...

X, please do not pray for me. With the god you seem to represent, I don't want his blessings (or curses). You are serving the god of this world, not God almighty. You would not be putting out this garbage if you served God. I don't think He would like having one of his children crushing the dreams of those he created. If you honestly believed what you claim to beleive, you would not have started this blog. Therefore, you are a hypocrite.

Just something for you to think about.

I don't need to prove a thing when it comes to my income. I already told you what level I am at and if you claim to know so much, you will remember what a properly structured Platinum makes. I make enough for my wife to stay home with the kids but not enough to sell off my stores yet.

As for who my upline Diamond is, that is neither here nor there. What difference does that make?

Thu Nov 17, 02:40:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger Joecool18 said...

It's bill britt who spouts the lies and deception:

Quixtar saves marriages? Nope:
http://www.amquix.info/amway_divorces.html

Quixtar diamonds get residual income? Nope:
http://www.amquix.info/amway_exdiamonds.html

98% of people dead or broke by age 65? Nope:
http://www.amquix.info/amway_retirement_legend.html

95% of small businesses fail in 5 years? Nope: http://www.amquix.info/pdfs/small_business_faqs.pdf

Do you guys believe everything your upline (cult leader) tell you without verifying any of it?

Have a glass of kool aid for me.

Thu Nov 17, 03:26:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger xanadustc said...

Sorry, request denied! I will continue to pray for you. In fact, I will one up the anti and send out your situation to a whole prayer team. Who is serving the God of this World? You are preaching a Wealth Gospel that God wants to fulfill your very desires. The Bible teaches self-denial, you know, pick up your cross daily and follow Him.

False Assumptions 102, I DID listen to my upline Sponsor, Platium, Emerald, Diamond, etc. etc. etc.

One more thing, quite trying to discredit me by pointing out spelling errors. My fingers don't type as well on a laptop that my J.O.B. afforded me to work on as well as a regular computer...and frankly, your pitiful comments are not worth much proofreading. As I have mentioned, I have found spelling errors in your comments, too. That is just silly.

All of my claims about BWW are clearly derived from the scripture. If you have a difference of opinion, post the scripture, because your opinion means about as much to me as a cow patty in Mississippi. I care about the Word of God. Prove me wrong, buddy.

Thu Nov 17, 10:29:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger xanadustc said...

I did not fail. I quite drinking the Kool-Aid and washed the soap out of my eyes.

Thu Nov 17, 10:30:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger Rahul said...

hi guys. can u give me the download links to these awesome tapes?? I'm an ibo in india n v don't have these tapes here.

Wed Nov 14, 04:45:00 AM GMT-5  

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