Sunday, November 06, 2005

How Can They Be Happy All The Time?

Tape: The Treasure is Within You

Speakers: Rob & Olivia Shannon

Stock Number: BWW192 (4 Message CD)

Recording Type: ‘Basic Mix’

Brief Review:

This is a brief speech at a Nardone - Melillo function. Olivia tells us that there are those people who make things happen, those who watch what happens, and those who wonder what happened and then admonishes the crowd to make things happen through Quixtar. Rob suggests that we should be happy all the time, in deed, the leaders are happy all the time. It is a choice to be happy all the time, and the power is within you.

Motivational Aspects:

“In the whole world of Quixtar, we have the best teachers, mentors and friends.”

“Who is here because they want to be wealthy? Because they want financial freedom? Because they want personal freedom? Everybody, of course.”

Olivia talks about the rewards of the business being the friends that you will make. She comments that the money is there…it is coming. While I assert that it is a good thing to gain friends, this business has simply proven to be very unethical and ungodly in it’s practice. I myself have accumulated a lot of friends, but those that I made in the business, only two have contacted me since they know I left the business and acknowledge that I will not be back.

Cult-like aspects:

Olivia introduces her speech by saying how blessed everyone is to be in the Nardone – Melillo family [The appeal to family seeks to capture those looking for something to belong to.]

“I believe today more, than ever, if you speak it, and claim it, and work it, it will happen. No question about it, because it is happening all over.” [Doctrine over person – if you do not succeed at this, it is your fault, not the system’s fault.]

“Focus on your first goal. Your first goal is core…Q12 core.” [If you just work hard enough, you will make it. While I do not discredit hard work, problems arise when you follow a plan such as Quixtar, particularly when the costs of core are so expensive.]

Rob does a scary edification of Angelo Nardone and Rex Renfrow saying that there is an extra edge about them that you don’t even find among people in wall street or even in the faithful church going people.

Catalog of covetousness for those materialistic people:

I am not sure if this was done for medical reasons or wardrobe reasons (He never detailed), but Rob had a hip replacement surgery to ‘add 5 millimeters to this leg.”

Other Interesting Notes:

“Before the wealth, and before the freedom, you need to decide to make a difference. You need to decide that you are going to have a positive impact in some bodies life. And a life of just plain old existence really doesn’t benefit many people, does it? Through the Quixtar business, we have that opportunity to just reach out and help. But unfortunately, not everyone is going to be receptive to that, as we know. And those guy’s, those people we make clients.” [I pull out that quote because it shows a few problems. The first, is that people are assumed to NEED Quixtar, thus, they need helped. The reality is that more people do NOT make success in Quixtar. There is an average net income of $115 in Quixtar; Next, the ‘us verses them’ syndrome appears, note again, “we have the opportunity to…help…not everyone is going to be receptive”. And finally, you can see that this particular group is not about retailing products, but growing a network, which fits the definition of a Product-Based Pyramid Scheme.]

Rob poses the question “How can they be happy all the time?” [The answer is that they are faking. For an example, I was in the audience during the taping of Dave & Jan Severn’s ‘What Makes You Come Alive?’ (BWW40). His mother had died a few days before. No one in the crowd could tell. Why? He put on a smile. It would have been entirely appropriate to talk about it in such a meeting where they talk about love and family, and heart, but he didn’t. Why? This is a negative, and a standing rule in Britt World Wide is that you never pass negative anywhere. There are many more examples, and even some examples that could contradict those statements, but the bottom line is that they Bible is very clear that there is a time for everything, among the examples of that are laughing and mourning (Ecclesiastes 3:1-8). In deed, the tapes goes on, “Chose to be happy now, regardless of the circumstances.” Let us chose to be happy when our parents die, children move out, it is not consistent with biblical teaching…it is not consistent with reality.]

CORRECTION - I need to correct a statement from above (I will leave the original intact) - I comment above, "you never pass negative anywhere", that is incorrect, you can pass negative to your immediate upline (the person you are counseling with), but you should not pass it anywhere else.

10 Comments:

Blogger blusdrmr said...

WOW! That's deep!

Hey! I have an idea! Since you think that they are so materialistic, how about you go quit your job tomorrow since you don't need the money. Or....are you just a hypocrite?

My guess would be the latter.

Wed Nov 16, 03:25:00 AM GMT-5  
Blogger xanadustc said...

There is a vast difference between materialism and content living. You want deep? How is this: They still work, too, but I will guess that until you are an Emerald, you are going to work the candle at both ends, far too much, simply for the privaledge to put your hard earned dollars into their pockets in exchange for a motivational CD that does not tell you anything that the majority of the other tapes tell you.

Have fun burning the candles.

Wed Nov 16, 10:07:00 AM GMT-5  
Blogger blusdrmr said...

That's you opinion. Since you are a "disgruntled" ex-IBO, I can see why you are the way you are. Not everyone has the guts to make it and you are one of those. THis business offers everyone the same opportunity just like any other business (I should know, I own two conventional businesses, also). You, on the other hand, are the typical employee who thinks that just because you could not make it work, that EVERYONE else is not going to make it.

You are a hypocrite and a loser in every sense of the word.

It's sad that you have nothing better to do than to try to steal other people's dreams away from them.

Thu Nov 17, 08:35:00 AM GMT-5  
Blogger xanadustc said...

Have you read Robert FitzPatricks reports? If not, go read them.

BTW, I used to own some businesses, too. I had one that operated for a fixed amount of time, it cost me absolutely nothing to start, run, etc. The only expenses incurred were directly related to moving product, and I made solid profit from the gate.

From the employee standpoint, I have no stress, enjoy my work, treat it as a ministry, and am very well taken care of. I have full medical benefits as well as several other benefits. Employees are no worse off than business owners, but cult memebers have some real issues.

Got Cult?

Have fun going broke, unless you break out of the system you and/or many people in your downline (if you have one) will be losing money. Quixtar is a negative sum game when used in conjunction with a Motivational organization. Check the facts, buddy.

Thu Nov 17, 08:53:00 AM GMT-5  
Blogger Joecool18 said...

Why not have all the downline quit their jobs to focus on quixtar and see how great the business really is?

Thu Nov 17, 01:25:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger blusdrmr said...

Joecool18 said...
Why not have all the downline quit their jobs to focus on quixtar and see how great the business really is?

Because that is stupid. Obviously you have NEVER ran any sort of a business.

Speak from experience, not from realm of stupidity and somoen might actually listen to you.

Thu Nov 17, 05:52:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger blusdrmr said...

xanadustc said...
X:Have you read Robert FitzPatricks reports? If not, go read them.

Why do I want to listen to people who discredit what I do? I am sure I can find many blog sites about how bad cellular phones are, too. If I listen to them, then I would not have a successful cellular phone business, too. I choose to listen to the people who can help me benefit, not lose. You ought to try it sometime.

X: BTW, I used to own some businesses, too. I had one that operated for a fixed amount of time, it cost me absolutely nothing to start, run, etc. The only expenses incurred were directly related to moving product, and I made solid profit from the gate.

WOW! Gee.......I am impressed. (sarcasm implied)

X: From the employee standpoint, I have no stress, enjoy my work, treat it as a ministry, and am very well taken care of. I have full medical benefits as well as several other benefits. Employees are no worse off than business owners, but cult memebers have some real issues.

What's it like being a slave?

R: Got Cult?

Nope, but you obviously got stupid.

R: Have fun going broke, unless you break out of the system you and/or many people in your downline (if you have one) will be losing money. Quixtar is a negative sum game when used in conjunction with a Motivational organization. Check the facts, buddy.

HA HA HA HA!! That's funny! Have fun going broke! Too funny! Not gonna happen, there, hypocrite. Making good money, thanks!

BTW...I got the facts. You obviously do not.

You are still a Hypocrite.

Thu Nov 17, 05:57:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger Joecool18 said...

blusdrmr said.... BTW...I got the facts. You obviously do not.


Joe.... Prove it

Thu Nov 17, 06:01:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger Joecool18 said...

blusdrmr said...
Joecool18 said...
Why not have all the downline quit their jobs to focus on quixtar and see how great the business really is?

Because that is stupid. Obviously you have NEVER ran any sort of a business.

Joecool.... I have friends who owned REAL businesses. Guess what? Their job was working at their business. They did not work an outside job to support their business. McDonald's owners usually work at their stores until it is established then they may take a more passive role.

For you and your friends, you would not have a business if not supported by their jobs.

Thu Nov 17, 07:30:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger xanadustc said...

One of your big problems is that you apparently have NEVER researched this thing. Robert FitzPatrick is a very qualified businesses analyst. Lets not forget many other business analysts who, from the IBO POV, discredit Quixtar. Those that support it are analyzing it from the money making end of the corporation, not the IBO.

Look again at what Joe said: In your business, you need your downline to keep their day job because they can not make it without the money. In a real business, you don't need a real job to support your business.

Now, examine the IRS evidence, did you know that people that do not break a profit within 3-5 years are not allowed to deduct Quixtar related events on tax returns? There are documents on that one too. Do you know how many people make that kind of profit? Very few.

Good luck, have fun,
I will be passing out that email for hundreds of people to be praying for you.

Peace in Christ,
X

Thu Nov 17, 10:40:00 PM GMT-5  

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